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CFMX 7 - Should I Upgrade? When?

posted under category: ColdFusion on February 9, 2005 at 1:00 am by MrNate

Well CFMX 7 is out already. Good work MM folks. It looks pretty seamless with my existing apps, and I can't wait to start using the new application events. Hopefully we'll upgrade our Enterprise licenses and I'll get to play with event gateways too.

Now down to business, Is there really any reason to upgrade? Yeah new programming toys are nice, but we've been doing fine without them so far. CFDocument will please the higher-ups, as will the built-in script protection, but how about a magical ability to keep JRun from crashing from too many queued threads? Does it have that? What about invincible database drivers that won't choke up? What about a connector that stays connected to IIS, finds out if it gets disconnected (starts throwing JRun errors) and re-connects itself. I've had to restart IIS and/or CF way too many times.

I'm not going to say that CF isn't enterprise-ready, or that it won't scale, because it is and it will. It always will, depending on how you code your sites and tweak your servers. I just have a few reservations.

Anyways, we're probably not going to upgrade, at least not the majority of our servers, unless there's actually something more than neat features.

Hey here's a marketing idea for Macromedia. Put out a service pack early, only a few bug fixes, whatever's blaringly obvious. Do it in a month after the release date so you can say you've fixed any initial release problems. How many people and companies wait for Microsoft's SP1 or 2 before investing in a new enterprise OS?

As a side note, I think the excel format on cfdocument will probably win us over in the short-term, but that's just for our intranet. Strange, I never really liked the idea of calling an excel spreadsheet a 'document'.

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On Feb 9, 2005 at 1:00 AM jared chandler (jared.chandler from said:
excel format?

On Feb 9, 2005 at 1:00 AM Andy Allan (andy has underestimated the power of said:
Yeah, Excel is ONLY supported with Reporting, not with cfdocument.

On Feb 9, 2005 at 1:00 AM Nathan Strutz ( said:
I don't think I imagined it... MS Excel is a valid format for CFDocument, right? I know they were talking about it...

On Feb 9, 2005 at 1:00 AM Nathan Strutz ( said:
Ok, ok, thanks Andy, that makes sense.

On Feb 9, 2005 at 1:00 AM Jeff Roberson (jlr from said:
I posted several threads and talked to several people at MAX about the stabiility but I always get blank looks.

Their setup program is the worst!

It has been terrible for 3 releases and doesn't seem to get better.

Which is weird because even though I don't use it Blue Dragon seems to install flawlessly.

For $5000 I would think it could install without breaking.

On Feb 9, 2005 at 1:00 AM Damon Cooper (dcooper, visiting us from said:
No issues so far, and yes, we do Excel! :)

Go for it!


On Feb 12, 2005 at 1:00 AM gene (et at the endearing said:
Mr Nate,
You are right on the money. I can see reasons to upgrade to get some document features and what not but unless the main issues you address that are enterprise related features we can not see upgrading. But, we will download the trail and see if there are the same issues with DB,threads,IIS blah blah all of which plague the ability to provide a HA and stress free enviornment. I will hope that these items are fixed as well.


On Feb 15, 2005 at 1:00 AM K. Anderson (kevin whose email lies with said:
Excellent comments. While we're at it, how about MM releasing a professional version. The jump of $4,000+ between standard and enterprise is really steep. There are many of us that want some of the features of Enterprise, on tight budgets, but don't need the full JRun capabilities.

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